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Bittersweet Refinements: Chapter III

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Chapter III
A Term of Endearment
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship.  And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.”  The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.

Before proceeding any further, please let me explain that when I make some reference to our Heavenly Father, I am referring to not only the Lord God Almighty, but to His only begotten Son [John 1:14-18], who truly is the Lord Jesus Christ [Matthew 3:13-17], as well as His Holy Spirit [1 John 5:8].  For I most certainly do not want to add anymore to the confusion, myself.
Yes, I have been made well aware of the absolute truth of the matter truly being that they are three distinct individuals.  Well, at least in a natural sense to the extent of my understanding [John 14:20], but in a spiritual sense, our Heavenly Father is also One [Deuteronomy 6:4] and the Same [Genesis 1:26] with His only begotten Son and His Holy Spirit.

No, I cannot explain how that is possible—certainly not physiological terms.  I just know that it is indeed true through the witness of His Holy Spirit [John 16:13], and it is because of how much more intimate it is to me to refer to Him and Christ Jesus as also being my Heavenly Father that I do so.

More importantly, this is something that our Heavenly Father wants.  For we were created to have a very close and personal relationship with Him [Matthew 11:28-30], and rigid formalities get in the way of this—even when they are well intended [1 Peter 5:7].  Alas, I know that many see nothing wrong with calling their own earthly parents by their actual names when speaking to them, but does this not suggest that they consider them as being no different than everyone else?

Of course, there is something far more serious that gets in the way of us wanting to truly have a very close and personal relationship with our Heavenly Father instead of just with His only begotten Son.  For it has been widely taught that Christ Jesus stands between us and the wrath of the Lord God Almighty [Romans 1:18].

No, this is not to deny that [Isaiah 53:1-12], but the whole absolute truth of the matter truly is that Christ Jesus IS the Lord God Almighty [John 10:30]!  Furthermore, it is written: And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.  For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.  And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.  What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us?  He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things?  Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies.  Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.  Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword?  As it is written: "For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered."  No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.  For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. [Romans 8:28-39 NIV]

In other words, the wrath of the Lord God Almighty is also the wrath of the Lord Jesus Christ and His Holy Spirit.  Furthermore, the grace afforded us through the Lord Jesus Christ and His Holy Spirit is also the grace of the Lord God Almighty [Ephesians 2:8-9].

Tragically, our Heavenly Father’s Holy Spirit is generally left out of most equations.  For He is usually presented as being nothing more than merely a helper to us by those who do openly recognize His existence, but He is never considered as truly being on the same level as Christ Jesus and our Heavenly Father by most in the Christian community.

Yes, it is indeed a very great tragedy.  In fact, it will lead to the eternal doom of far too many [Matthew 12:36-37].  For it is written: “He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters.  And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.  Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.” [Matthew 12:30-32 NIV]

It is to miss the point of truly having a very close and personal relationship with our Heavenly Father to think in terms of punishment, however.  For it is written: We have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.  By this, love is perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgment; because as He is, so also are we in this world.  There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love.  We love, because He first loved us [1 John 4:16-19 NAS].


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24 comments:

  1. ElderChild

    Truth IS, as Paul testified, "G-D was in The Messiah", Paul did not testify that 'g-d was the messiah'.......

    The Messiah testified of, "The Only True G-D".......

    And Paul testified of "ONE G-D, Father of ALL".......

    The Messiah testified of, "The Only True G-D" and The Messiah testified that He had a "G-D and Father".......

    Paul testified of "ONE G-D, Father of ALL".......

    Paul testified, "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in G-D, WHO CREATED ALL things by The Messiah".......(Eph3:9)

    The Messiah was "The Beginning of The Creation of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL.......(Rev 3:14)

    There is Only ONE True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, and HE IS The G-D and Father(Creator) of The Messiah and His brethren.......

    John 17:3 "And this is Eternal Life, that they might know YOU The Only True G-D, and The Messiah, Whom YOU have sent".......

    Mark 12:32-33 "And the scribe said unto The Messiah, Well, Master, You have said The Truth: for there is ONE G-D; and there is NONE OTHER but HE. And to love HIM with all your heart, and with all your understanding, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and to love his neighbor as yourself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices".......

    Rom 3:30 "Seeing it is ONE G-D, WHO shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith".......

    1 Cor 8:6 "But to us there is but ONE G-D, The Father, of WHOM are all things, and we in HIM; and one Master, The Messiah, by Whom are all things, and we by Him".......

    Rev 3:14 The Messiah was "The Beginning of The Creation of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL".......

    Eph 4:6 "ONE G-D, Father of ALL, WHO is above all, and through all, and in you all".......

    John 4:24 "G-D is A SPIRIT: and they that worship HIM must worship HIM in Spirit and in Truth".......

    Luke 24:39 The Messiah testified after He was "raised from among the dead", "Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself, handle Me and see, for A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE FLESH AND BONES, AS you see I HAVE".......

    The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL can not die.......period.......

    The Messiah died and "The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL raised Him from among the dead"....... And The Messiah's incorruptible body ascended into the clouds.......

    James 1:13 "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of G-D, for G-D CAN NOT BE TEMPTED with evil, neither tempts HE any man".......

    Heb 4:15 "For we do not have a High Priest(The Messiah) Who cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, for He WAS in all points TEMPTED like we are, yet without sin".......

    (continued)

  1. ElderChild

    The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, HE CAN NOT BE TEMPTED with sin AS THE MESSIAH WAS.......period.......

    1 Tim 2:5 "There is ONE G-D, and one mediator between G-D and men, the man-The Messiah".......

    James 2:19 "You believe that there is ONE G-D, you do well, yet the devils also believe, and tremble".......

    John 20:17 "The Messiah said unto her, Touch Me not; for I have not yet ascended to My Father: but go to My brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto My Father, and your Father; and to My G-D, and your G-D."

    Mark 3:33-35 "The Messiah answered them, saying, "Who is My mother, or My brethren"? And He looked round about on them which sat about Him, and said, "Behold my mother and my brethren! For whoever shall do The Will of G-D, the same is My brother, and My sister, and mother"".......

    Rom 8:29 "Whom G-D did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of HIS Son, that The Messiah might be the firstborn among many brethren".......

    Hope is you are one of the brethren of The Messiah.......

    The brethren of The Messiah know there is Only ONE True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL.......

    And Truth is as The Messiah tesified, " My(Our) Father is greater than I".......(John14:28)

    And Truth is as Paul testifed, "The HEAD of The Messiah is The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, and The Head of the man is The Messiah, and the head of the woman is the man".......(1Cor11:3)

    Those who would pervert The Order of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL will have to answer to HIM.......

    For The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, "HE Created all things by The Messiah" and The Messiah was "The Beginning of The Creation of The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL.......

    Truth is "The Messiah is The Son of The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL".......

    The Messiah testified that He had a "G-D and Father" and that His "G-D and Father" was also the "G-D and Father" of His Brethren.......

    And The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, HE has no god, for HE IS G-D, and HE has no father, for HE IS Father(Creator) of ALL, and HE has no brethren, for HE IS Father(Creator) of ALL.......

    Hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is receiving "the love of The Truth" for they will "experience The Messiah and The Power(Our Father) that raised Him from among the dead".......

    The Faith of those who have received "the love of The Truth" is grounded in Miracles, not mere colored marks(words) written on a dead tree(page) and bound in a book.......

    Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world and it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one" indeed and Truth.......

    Truth is never ending....... francis

  1. FishHawk

    Wow, that was some comment. Be assured that I am deeply appreciative of your passion. I fully agree that there is only One true God, who truly is the Lord God Almighty and our Heavenly Father. Just in case I did not make it clear enough in this chapter, the point that I was given to make in it is that the Lord God Almighty is One and the Same with Christ Jesus and His Holy Spirit. For far too many have been led to believe that Christ Jesus keeps us safe from the wrath of the Lord God Almighty when the absolute truth of the matter truly is that Christ Jesus is the Lord God Almighty, and the same applies for His Holy Spirit. How this can be, I do not know, but I can know for sure that it is indeed true because of Him telling me so. Of course, I may be woefully deceived, but it sure sounds right.

  1. ElderChild

    Hopefully, "all men would see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in The ONE and Only True G-D, Father of ALL, HE WHO CREATED ALL THINGS by The Messiah".......Eph 3:9)

    "Thou art worthy, O LORD Our GOD, to receive glory and honor and power: for YOU HAVE CREATED ALL THINGS, and for THY pleasure they are and were created".......(Rev 4:11)

    As for The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL.......

    The Messiah bore witness to The Only True G-D.......(John 17:3)

    Paul bore witness to the "ONE G-D and Father of ALL, HE WHO is above all, and through all, and in you all".......(Eph 4:6)

    Now unless one is pagan and believes in multilple 'gods' it is quite apparent that when "biblical" New Covenant translations refer to G-D and/or Father, such a reference bears witness to The ONE and Only True G-D, Father of ALL.......

    Because of catholic/chrisitan folklore it is needful to represent The ONE and Only True G-D, Father of ALL as HE IS so that there might be those who would finally see how they have been led astray because of the secular and religious educational braindirtying processes they were subjected unto.......

    To be sure, the multitudes were unknowingly subjected unto such, yet braindirtyed nonetheless ;-(

    And only The Truth can pierce through the armour of deception that binds them in the seductive chains of strong delusion.......

    Hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is receiving "the love of The Truth".......

  1. ElderChild

    WHO is "The LORD G-D Almighty"?

    WHO did Stephen see standing at the right hand of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, HE WHO sits on The Throne?

    "But Stephen, being full of The Holy Spirit, looked up stedfastly into Heaven, and saw The Glory of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, and he saw The Messiah standing at the right hand of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL.

    And Stephen said, Behold, i see the Heavens opened, and The Son of man standing at the right hand of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL".......(Acts7:54-56)

    "If you are risen with The Messiah, seek those things which are above, where The Messiah sits at the right hand of The ONE and Only True G-D", Father(Creator) of ALL".......(Col3:1)

    "Who is he that condemns? It is The Messiah that died, yes rather, that is risen again, Who is even at the right hand of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, and The Messiah makes intercession for us".......(Rom8:34)

    "Looking unto The Messiah, the Author and Finisher of our Faith, Who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of The Throne of The ONE and Only True G-D", Father(Creator) of ALL".......(Heb12:2)

    WHO IS "The LORD G-D Almighty"?

    HE WHO IS The ONE and ONLY TRUE G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL.......

    Hopefully, "all men would see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, HE WHO CREATED ALL THINGS by The Messiah".......(Eph 3:9)"

    Quite clear that The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL created all things by The Messiah.......

    "WHO IS The LORD G-D Almighty?"

    Rev 4:8 through Rev 5:13

    8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, Holy, Holy, LORD G-D Almighty, WHO WAS, and IS, and IS TO COME.

    9 And when those beasts give glory and honor and thanks to HIM that sat on the throne, HE WHO Lives for Ever and Ever.

    *******

    The Messiah died and The LORD G-D Almighty raised Him from among the dead.......

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    10 The four and twenty elders fall down before HIM that sat on the throne, and worship HIM WHO Lives for Ever and Ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

    11 Thou art worthy, O LORD G-D, to receive Glory and Honor and Power: for YOU have created all things, and for YOUR pleasure they are and were created.

    *******

    The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, HE WHO created all things by, of and through The Messiah...... The Messiah was "The Beginning of The Creation of The Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL".......

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    Rev 5:1-13

    1 And I saw in the right hand of HIM that sat on The Throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

    *******

    Quite clear that The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL had "a book in HIS right hand".......

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    2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, "Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?"

    3 And no man in Heaven, or in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, or able to look therein.

    4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look therein.

    5 And one of the elders said unto me, Weep not: behold, The Lion of The Tribe of Judah, The Root of David, has prevailed and can open the book, and can loose the seven seals thereof.

    *******

    The Lion of The Tribe of Judah, The Root of David, is none other than The Messiah.......

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    (continued)

  1. ElderChild

    6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL sent forth into all the earth."

    *******

    A Lamb, The Messiah "The Lamb of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL", He Who gave His Life that i might receive Life.......

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    7 And He(The Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of HIM(The ONE and Only True G-D, Father[Creator] of ALL) that sat upon the throne.

    *******

    The Messiah, The Lamb of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, took the book from His G-D and Father, HE WHO sat upon the throne, HE WHO IS The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL.......

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    8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odors, which are the prayers of saints.

    *******

    Once again The Messiah, "The Lamb of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL".......

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    9 And they sang a new song, saying, You are worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for you were slain, and you have redeemed us unto The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL by Thy blood, out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

    *******

    The Messiah was worthy for He sought only to do The Will of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, He desired to do The Will of His G-D and Father above all else, even unto the death.......

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    10 And have made us unto Our G-D(HE WHO is The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL) kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

    11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

    12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is The Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing.

    *******

    Worthy is The Messiah, "The Lamb of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL".......

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    13 And every creature which is in Heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, "Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto HIM(The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL) that sits upon the throne, and unto The Lamb for ever and ever.

    *******

    The Messiah, "The Lamb of The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL".......

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    (continued)

  1. ElderChild

    "WHO is The LORD G-D Almighty?"

    HE WHO IS The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL.......

    The Messiah testified of, "The Only True G-D".......

    Paul testified of "ONE G-D, Father of ALL".......

    There is Only ONE True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, and HE IS The
    G-D and Father(Creator) of The Messiah and His brethren.......

    Paul testified, "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the
    mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in G-D,
    WHO CREATED ALL things by The Messiah".......(Eph3:9)

    Simply, The Messiah was, is, and always will be "The Son of The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL", HE WHO IS "The LORD G-D Almighty".......

    Those who have experienced The Miracle that is receiving "the love of The Truth" also desire that which The Messiah desired above all else:

    "Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done".......

    And as "The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL sent The Messiah, so The Messiah sends His Brethren".......

    So while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    For Miracles do happen.......

    Hope is that you have experienced The Miracle that is receiving "the love of The Truth".......

    Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world and it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one"(1JN5:19) indeed and Truth.......

    Truth is never ending....... francis

  1. FishHawk

    My dear ElderChild, I suspect that you are seeking to prove that the Lord Jesus Christ is not the Lord God Almighty, and in response to that, please consider: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—children born not of natural descent,nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.'" From the fullness of his grace we have all received one blessing after another. For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known. John the Baptist Denies Being the Christ. Now this was John's testimony when the Jews of Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was. 20He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, "I am not the Christ." They asked him, "Then who are you? Are you Elijah?" He said, "I am not." "Are you the Prophet?" He answered, "No." Finally they said, "Who are you? Give us an answer to take back to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?" John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet, "I am the voice of one calling in the desert, 'Make straight the way for the Lord.'" Now some Pharisees who had been sent questioned him, "Why then do you baptize if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?" "I baptize with water," John replied, "but among you stands one you do not know. He is the one who comes after me, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie." This all happened at Bethany on the other side of the Jordan, where John was baptizing. Jesus the Lamb of God. The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! This is the one I meant when I said, 'A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.' I myself did not know him, but the reason I came baptizing with water was that he might be revealed to Israel." Then John gave this testimony: "I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him. I would not have known him, except that the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, 'The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is he who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.' I have seen and I testify that this is the Son of God." In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. {John 1:1-34 NIV}

    Alas, there is no way for me to prove that our Heavenly Father and His only begotten Son and His Holy Spirit are One and the Same with each other to those who do not want to believe it. I can only hope that the day will come when they can accept what our Heavenly Father actually says is absolutely true about Himself and the righteousness of His most awesome ways. Thanks for stopping by again.

  1. ElderChild

    Because of theo'rylogical systems of religion "The Way of Truth is evil spoken of" ;-(

    Sadly, religion has had it's way with you ;-(

    Yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    For Miracles do happen.......

    "Pure And Undefiled Religion"

    "Pure religion and undefiled before G-D The Father is this, to visit the fatherless (those children who know not their Father, HE WHO is The Only True G-D, Father{Creator} of ALL) and widows(those who have not "experienced The Messiah and The Power{Our Father} that raised Him from among the dead") in their affliction and to keep oneself uncontaminated by the world......." (James 1:27)

    Simply, all other religion is impure and defiled.......

    And notice that "pure and undefiled" religion is "oneself(individual)", a Brother or Sister doing The Will of Our Father, led of The Holy, Set Apart, Spirit.......

    Simply, corporate "religion" is pagan and of this wicked world.......

    And "Brothers and Sisters" is not "religion", for what are Brothers and Sisters if not Family?

    Would not The Family of The Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, "The Body of The Messiah", be much closer than a natural, fleshly family?

    And so it is that most of those who have chosen to follow The Messiah on The Narrow Way have had to "forsake their natural father, mother, brothers, sisters" and all others who will not follow The Messiah, because they "love this wicked world and their own life in and of it".......

    The Brethren of The Messiah have "forsaken all for The Kingdom of Heaven's sake".......

    Father Help! and HE does.......

    What is declared to be "religion" today is truly the devil's playground.......

    Simply, Faith will not create a system of religion.......

    Hope is there would be those who take heed unto The Call of The Only True G-D to "Come Out of her, MY people"!

    For they will "Come Out" of this wicked world(babylon) and it's systems of religion, and enter into "the glorious Liberty of The Children of The Only True G-D".

    And so it is that they will no longer be of those who are destroying the earth(land, air, water, vegetation, creatures)" and perverting that which is Spirit(Light, Truth, Life, Love, Peace, Hope, Faith, Mercy, Grace, Miracles, etc.).......

    Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world and it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one" (1John5:19) indeed and Truth.......

    Truth is never ending.......

  1. FishHawk

    Be assured that I agree with an awful lot of what you just said there. I have two more books to add to this site, and they are meant to be read before Bittersweet Refinements. The one that is meant to be read first, which is The Crackerhead Chronicles, will give you some idea of where I have been, and where I am at now. Hopefully, you will be willing to at least rethink your opinion that I am still mired in the Spiritual ignorance of this world after reading it. Those two other books should be posted within a week. Thanks for stopping by again, my dear ElderChild.

  1. ElderChild

    So many braindirtyed to the utmost ;-(

    Anyone who would believe in a three headed g-d is yet under the infuence of theo'ry'logical religion.......

    Such influence is much worse than a dwi for such pagan seduction, deception, and delusion kills the spirit and soul within man ;-(

    True it is that "evil men and seducers are waxing worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived".......

    Yet there is hope!

    For Miracles do happen.......

    Hope is there would be those who take heed unto The Call of The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL to "Come Out of her, MY people".......

    All who take heed will Come Out of this world(babylon) and it's systems of religion for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one" indeed and Truth....... francis

  1. FishHawk

    Thanks for stopping by again, my dear ElderChild.

  1. ElderChild

    The 1st Day of Creation.

    "The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of GOD moved upon the face of the waters." (Gen 1:2)

    Then GOD spoke HIS Word into being.......

    "Let there be Light"!

    And "There was Light".......(Gen 1:3)

    And such 'Light' was to be, and is, Eternal!

    So it is that Hope is Alive!

    Even though this wicked world begins and ends it's day in darkness it is good to realize that the 1st Day of Creation, although begun midst the darkness, ended in 'Light'! (Gen 1:5)

    And such 'Light' was not the sun, moon or stars for they were not created until the 4th Day. (Gen 1:14-19)

    GOD's Word "Let there be Light" became "The Light which enlightens every man born into the world" and was "the glory The Messiah had with Our Father before the world began".......(John 1:9, 17:5)

    LIGHT Begot Light.......

    LIKE Begot Like.......

    The Messiah, "The Light of the world".......(Jn8:12)

    The Messiah, "The beginning of The Creation of GOD".......(Rev1:1, 3:14)

    The Messiah, "The Son of The Living GOD".......(John 6:69)

    And Our Father, HE "created all things by(of, in and thru) The Messiah".......(Ep3:9)

    The 1st Day of Creation.

    "And GOD called The Light, Day, and the darkness HE called night. And the evening(darkness) and The Morning(Light) was The 1st Day." (Gen 1:5)

    Now if the beginning can not be 'seen' nor understood, then what of the end?

    Confusion would reign! And today confusion does reign midst the religious systems of this world, for apart from "The Light" there is only darkness, "the blind leading the blind" ;-(

    And the Apostle Paul saw "The Light" that is The Messiah on the road to Damascus:

    "At midday, O king, I saw in the way a Light from Heaven, which was above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.

    And when we had all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.

    And I said, Who are you, Master? And The Messiah said, I am Y'shua(for He spoke in the Hebrew tongue) Whom you are persecuting". (Acts 26:13-15)

    GOD's Word "Let there be Light" became "The Light which enlightens every man born into the world", "The Light" that is The Messiah, and was "the glory The Messiah had with Our Father before the world began".......(John 1:9, 17:5)
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  1. ElderChild

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    Someone had commented, "I am interested in how you synchronize your doctrine on God creating the light with John's version".


    i believe you are referring to John 1:1-5 and how John's testimony bears witness to The Messiah being "The Light" begotten by Our Father the 1st Day of Creation.



    Father Help! and HE does.......

    (John 1:1) "In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with GOD, and The Word was GOD."
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    "In the beginning was The Word"

    The 1st Day of Creation was the beginning.

    And "In the beginning" GOD(Creator) WAS, and HE spoke The(GOD’S)Word "Let There Be Light" and "There was Light"!

    "and The Word was with GOD"

    GOD spoke The(GOD’S)Word "Let There Be Light" and The(GOD’S)Word "Let There Be Light" became "Light" and "was with GOD", HE WHO IS LIGHT!

    "and The Word was GOD"

    GOD spoke The(GOD’S)Word "Let There Be Light", "The(GOD’S)Word was GOD" and became Light!

    LIGHT Begot Light!

    The Messiah, "The True Light(The Light of Truth) which enlightens every man born into this world."(John 1:9)

    The Messiah, "The beginning of The Creation of GOD(Our Father)!"(Rev3:14)

    So it is that The Messiah, the first begotten of Our Father, testified "The Father is Greater than I."(John 14:28)

    "The Light", "the glory The Messiah had with Our Father before the world began."(John 17:5)
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    (John 1:2-5) "The same was in the beginning with GOD. All things were made by Him, and without Him was not any thing made that was made. In Him was Life; and The Life was The Light of men. And The Light(The Messiah)shinned midst the darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."

    "To make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning (as in John 1:2) of the world has been hid in GOD, WHO Created all things by The Messiah(The(GOD’S)Word "Let There Be Light")."(Eph 3:9)

    Our Father(Creator)created "all things" of, by, in and thru The Messiah(The(GOD’S)Word "Let There Be Light").
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    (John 1:14) "And The(GOD’S) Word("Let There Be Light") was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His(The Messiah) glory, the glory as of the only begotten of The Father, full of Grace and Truth."

    "The Light" was "the glory The Messiah had with Our Father before the world began."(John 17:5)

    Father Help! and HE does.......

    So there is Hope!

    For Miracles do happen.......

    Hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is receiving "the love of The Truth" for they will "see" The Light that is The Messiah.......

    Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this wicked world. for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one" indeed and Truth.......(1John5:19)

    Truth IS, a lie never was and is not.......

    Abide in The Truth.......

  1. FishHawk

    Thanks for stopping by again, my dear Elder Child!!! Unto all of that all I can say is AMEN!

  1. ElderChild

    Now how could you say "Amen to all that" and yet remain captivated by a heretical pentecostal doctrine concerning Who The Messiah was, is and always will be?

    Quite simply, The Messiah is "The Son of The Living GOD".......

    And The Messiah testified that He had a GOD and Father(Creator) and that His GOD and Father(Creator) was also the GOD and Father(Creator) of His Brethren.......

    And The ONE and Only True Living GOD, Father(Creator) of ALL, HE has no god for HE IS GOD, and HE has no Father(Creator) for HE IS Father(Creator) of ALL.......

    Sadly, it seems that you yet "love this world and your own life in it"
    and such would not allow you to see "The Light" ;-(

    Our Father spoke The(HIS) Word into existance "Let There Be Light, and there was Light".......

    And so it is that The Messiah was "The Beginning of the creation of GOD".......

    And "The Only True GOD" is Father(Creator) of ALL, The Messiah inclusive!

    Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world.......

  1. FishHawk

    Well, the reason I thought I could was because of not seeing anything that contradicts what our Heavenly Father has personally revealed to me. Of course, I could be woefully deceived.

    No, I cannot explain how it could be as such--certainly not physiological terms. I just know that our Heavenly Father and His only begotten Son and His Holy Spirit are One and the Same with each while being three distinct individuals, and the reason why I can say that I know that this is absolutely true is because of what our Heavenly Father has told me, which may have actually been from His Holy Spirit or His only begotten Son.

  1. ElderChild

    Quite obvious that religion has had it's way with you ;-( So it is that your own "imag"ination has led you astray ;-(

    Simply, sad for you ;-(

  1. FishHawk

    Hopefully not, my dear Elder Child.

  1. ElderChild

    'jesus' is but the name pagan catholicism gave to one head of their three headed pagan god less than 500 years ago ;-(

    http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2008/07/who-is-this-christian-jesus-truth-is.html

  1. FishHawk

    That seems highly unlikely, my dear ElderChild. For the Scriptures that identify Him were written long before then, and if you are going to claim that they were misinterpreted, on what basis can you do so without hearing from the Author of them? For even the most ancient of texts that were available at the time were probably merely copies of copies of other copies of the original manuscripts. Besides, the One who Authored them has personally revealed to me that they are trustworthy.

    I am curious about why you would want to take such a position, and why is our Heavenly Father's Holy Spirit ignored in many of these Oneness debates? For it is written: "He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned." {Matthew 12:30-37 NIV}

  1. ElderChild

    You are naught but a pagan catholic clone ;-(

    Simply sad for you ;-(

  1. FishHawk

    We will see, come Judgment Day, my dear ElderChild.

  1. ElderChild

    Simply sad for you ;-(